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1985P w/reverse bar?
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MorgansRmine
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:01 pm Reply with quote



Not sure on this one. Seems to be an angled bar off column seven. Also extra feet or knees at lower legs. All these high spots survived the toothpick test, but I've found that unreliable sometimes. Any opinions?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:23 pm Reply with quote

I wouldn't expect that type of doubling on a 1985 coin. They weren't using the single squeeze method then, and this is when these extra column bars started showing up. The bubble in the 6th bay above the statue, as well as something on the shoulder leads me to believe it is a plating/bubble issue.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:31 am Reply with quote

Bob - I am going to disagree with you on when the Mint started using the single squeeze method. The Director of the Mints report for Fiscal year 1986 clear states that the mint was using single squeeze hubbing for master dies, working hubs and was in the pilot testing for the working dies. This report was released in 1985. I believe that the Mint actually used some of those early test working dies in their production of the Lincoln cent as early as 1981. Also, we were not the first country to employ this system; Canada had the single squeeze hubing system in full use in 1979.

As to the coin in this post, I do not believe that it is an extra column, but might be die damage from a struck through or drop object on the die face.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:04 pm Reply with quote

Either way, I don't see enough evidence on this coin to list it as a doubled die.
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