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grnwavdav
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:09 pm Reply with quote

I bought this today and I was wondering if anyone could give me the snow number for it. Sorry for the enormous picture. It's a 1903. The extra punch is only visible beneath the 1 and the 9.



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:14 pm Reply with quote

Dave,
The position of the 19 rpd closely matches the Snow-1. For that rpd, the lower left curve of the 0 shows repunching too. (1903/190)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:57 pm Reply with quote

KurtS wrote:
Dave,
The position of the 19 rpd closely matches the Snow-1. For that rpd, the lower left curve of the 0 shows repunching too. (1903/190)


Thanks Kurt. Is this where the 0 is repunched? I think I see it but my coin is pretty circulated. But are my arrows pointing to the spot to where the 0 should be repunched for Snow-1? I tried to make my picture smaller but it didn't work.



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:35 pm Reply with quote

Yes, that's the same place as in my Snow guide. It looks like the Snow-1 to me. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:25 am Reply with quote

I believe it is the Snow-21, oraybe the S-28. I'm still checking.... I can't find anything on the posting, to idicate a "0s". I believe it is the S-21. Where is the olive leaf, and is the shield free, or attached, and if so how?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:12 am Reply with quote

Dave, can you give a shot of the whole "90"? I would like to see the area at K-12:30, in the "0". If you don't mind. If it shows what I thought I saw, then it might be the S-28. not to confuse the issue, I just go by what me tired old eyes think they see!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:25 pm Reply with quote

Thanks, Kurt and Dick.

I'm at work now, but when I get home I will post pics of the "90", the sheild and the olive leaf.

Thanks for all of your help,
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:39 pm Reply with quote

"I'll wait"! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:14 pm Reply with quote

Hmm...what would be very helpful here is one more photo, zoomed out to show the whole date. That way, we can compare the position of the date to the bust and denticles and best confirm the Snow #. Then again, Rick Snow can look at your coin for a small fee and give you a 100% definite attribution.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:04 am Reply with quote

OK here's the date, shield and olive leaves. Let me know what you think.



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:32 pm Reply with quote

grnwavdav, Thanks for thepictures. I can't see as clearly, as I would like, ( on the "90") due to blurry, but the reverse indicates, to me, to be the S-28. I checked the guide for the commentary, re the reverse, in all three cases, and the S-1 was ruled our. The S-21, debatable, due to die state. I go along with Kurt, on the thought to have Rick make a final decision.
If the "90" were close, and sharp, it would help."separate the wheat from the chaff".
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:21 pm Reply with quote

I'm still rooting for the Snow-1, because the 1/1 is such a dead match to my book. The other RPDs are less clear, but the digit positions match, as does the position to the bust. Then again, my 2000 edition of the Snow guide doesn't have the S-28. Confused If you send this one to Mr. Snow, I'll make a $20 bet on the S-1--anybody?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:17 pm Reply with quote

Kurt, I hope youare correct. I am using the new guide, which supercedes th older one. My complaint, is that none of them show the reverse, with pertenant data, to facilitate the attribution of the particular coin. I'll "hang-loose' until I see the "90". That is where I find the "possible distinction. I haven't seen the remnant on the "0", so I would not make a declaration. There are enough differences bewteen the three, to eliminate the S-21, but it is still a toss=-up, (for me), between the S-1, and the @-28. It all hinges on what the "80" shows, in particular, the top-right area inside the "0".
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:37 pm Reply with quote

Here is the close up of the 90. And a much less blurry full date. I still think I see remanence of the extra 0 to the bottom left of the 0.



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:17 am Reply with quote

That is what I was looking for! Yers it is the S-1 I couldn't see the lower part of the "0" well enough to be sure, until you posted the "90", then everything became verty clear. I am stubborn when I think I have reason, but will also be the first to admit when i am wrong. Thanks for your patience!
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