Overlays

Dick · Expert Member

Coop, I just finished doing a pair of overlays, OBVREV, REV/OBV. Both are "saved for web" How do I get them out, to post, so you can ess them? They are still in PS.
Dick

KurtS · Senior Member

Oh, if they're saved for the web...then they are jpeg format? Do you have a server to host the pictures? If not, you're welcome to email them to me and I'll put them up myself. Very Happy

Dick · Expert Member

I use the "bucket, but haven't had any luck, uploading them...

KurtS · Senior Member

You might check the file format. Sometimes I mistakenly convert it to a non-compatible file type. The file should end in .jpg If you have no luck, just shoot the files over my way and I'll take a look. Very Happy

Dick · Expert Member

Kurt, I changed the format to .jpg, but still can't move them. If I could retrieve them, then I could send them to you, or upload to the bucket, right?

Dick · Expert Member

Kurt, I changed the format to .jpg, but still can't move them. If I could retrieve them, then I could send them to you, or upload to the bucket, right?
I finally got one to my documents, (don't ask how...), anyway, once it got there, the rest is history:

Enjoy! BYW, it was just a random coin, "date" so not one of mine.
My only comment on itis, that it is too dark. Maybe I missed a step. The next will be different...
Dick

Dick · Expert Member

I finally located them! here are three, that I wanted to try, and see the results:

This one I rotated the REV, in an attempt to make a dupe, of a rotated Rev die. The area under the chin.

this was oje of the others...

I wanted to see if I could make it clear enough to see more details. I don't like what I see, but they came out as overlays. I have done worse.
Opinions?
Dick

KurtS · Senior Member

Dick, your overlays work for me in that I can see obverse/reverse details simultaneously. Any way to post larger pics? That might be useful to discuss the coin below.

Did you see that 1901 IHC on "the other forum" Confused

I bet we could get a good discussion going here on these marks--I mentioned as much to Snaz.

Dick · Expert Member

Kurt, that coin is the one refer to. SNAZ used a couple reverses to check out the "thing", under the chin, and the die clash is ruled out with the overlays. so I tried different REV die rotation to see if I could get spomething "under the chin". The one I posted, has 18 Degrees CCW rotation. Close, but that only counts in horse-shoes. I'll go get the two originals, ie the OBV with the overlay, and the original OBV, and take it from there. Maybe I'll get lucky.
Later: I tried to zoom in on the area under the chin, on the overlay to see if it would help. Not what you wanted. Maybe you can do something with it. Also included, the OBV.

Dick

KurtS · Senior Member

Dick, looks like we were on the same page from the start! Very Happy

To my eyes, the position of these marks are a classic location for a clash--an isolated corner of the fields where die pressure could be maximized. However, as you say--nothing quite lines up for an IHC reverse. Confused

Normally, I would not consider a multi-denomination clash possible...except there is an 1870 shield 5c clashed with an IHC.

So, if this is a clash...what could it be? Others here are much better with overlays for clashes than me. I'll try a few things on my own, and see what turns up.

KurtS · Senior Member

Last time Snaz posted this coin, I tried an overlay using a Liberty nickel reverse, like this:

Interesting similarities--but not exactly the same, is it? Confused

KurtS · Senior Member

So I tried to match Snaz's "clash" to a Quarter Eagle and Barber dime of the same year--not even close. Here, I've taken a Liberty Nickel reverse and superimposed onto Snaz's coin, slightly rotating (half a degree) from the normal "coin alignment." I'm seeing some similarities, but it's still not convincing me. I wonder if there are clash marks elsewhere on the coin? Confused

Dick · Expert Member

I domn't recall any other remnants, so I have only concentrated in that area. Here are a couple 1979 Can cent that I memtioned. shots are bad, but I had even LESS experience with photography, and a much less optical power. The first image was the first I saw, and came from another forum, and coin. The second was one I have. notice the placement under the chin. In both cases, there are several other locations with remnants visible.

Kurt, can you pull up the coin SNAZ posted? I was looking for it, but can't locate. maybe it was on another forum...

Dick

KurtS · Senior Member

Dick,
I suspect our experience with Canadian 1c clashes paid off in noticing this IHC. Despite no conclusive match, this resembles a clash so much that I'm going see whether any foreign coin struck by the US Mint seems plausible. Confused

Dick · Expert Member

Not departing from the thread, but I noticed how horrible my picture is, and recalled Bob, sayingnhe was going to re-take some of the old pictures on the site, that he took a few tyears ago. I know what he means. It is a good thing I wasn't taking them!