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mojaveblueAdvanced Member
Posts: 143 Joined: 02 May 2010 Location: Southern Cal
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:44 am |
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I just got a roll of 2009P and D dimes on Ebay, and the phillys have quite a few errors. Many of the coins appear similar also.
I hope that I dont take up too much webspace here, Id like to share them with you.
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DickExpert Member
Posts: 5780 Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Location: Rialto, CA.
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:47 pm |
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I can't tell too much from the pictures, due to my vision, but I did dee the nice crack, sreaddling the base of the torch, and a few other points of "high relief". that is where the max stress is, usually.
Dick
_________________ " Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before".
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mojaveblueAdvanced Member
Posts: 143 Joined: 02 May 2010 Location: Southern Cal
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:25 pm |
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Thanks, when I come accross something on a coin, I try to think what on the die could have caused it, or why. So the high relief points on a coin are high stress points, is that because the force needed to drive or flow the coin metal into the die causes the die to crack in those areas?
On the pics, the first 2 show a small "extra flame tip" above the one flame. At least thats what I am hoping it is. I suppose it may also be a die gouge, it shows up on a few other coins, but not all to the same extent or size.
the next 3 pics are the cracks, and the last one is the obverse showing a pretty good size strike thru type area. Maybe just mint goop, but there again, a good few of the coins showed the area and those were mostly to the same extent. I would think goop or grease would not stay there after a few coins.
Phil
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DickExpert Member
Posts: 5780 Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Location: Rialto, CA.
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:15 pm |
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Phil, that is what i think is the cause of die cdracks. I may bewrong, and have been in the past, but logic, and the same occurances on different denominations seems to verify, that i am right, at least in part. That is not to say that all cracks are the resuly of stress. The very act of minting is enough to cause stress on some part of the dies, at any given time. I have not been that "exposed" to the different anomalies, so there is much to learn. This is a good site for learning.
_________________ " Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before".
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mojaveblueAdvanced Member
Posts: 143 Joined: 02 May 2010 Location: Southern Cal
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:43 am |
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Thanks Dick, I am in the process of my education.
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coopExpert Member
Posts: 3402 Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:12 pm |
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Die chips and cracks are what I see. Just a sign of the die aging.
_________________ Richard S. Cooper
You may be only one person in the world, but you may also be the world to one person.
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mojaveblueAdvanced Member
Posts: 143 Joined: 02 May 2010 Location: Southern Cal
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:27 pm |
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coppercoinsSite Admin
Posts: 2809 Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Location: Springfield, Missouri.
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:20 pm |
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Coop is right...these aren't true "errors" - they are normal anomalies that form on a die with use. They are expected to happen.
_________________ C. D. Daughtrey
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cd@coppercoins.com
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