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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:32 pm Reply with quote

Per April 4's Coin World, H.R. 902, currently on the House floor, will do two things if passed into law:

1. Create a "Presidential" series of circulating dollar coins. Each year (beginning 2007) the coins will show 4 presidents per year.

2. Create 4 different reverses for the 200th anniv of Lincoln's birth (2009). Each rev will show some aspect of Abe's life. Not only that, but:
2a. the Mint will be asked to use the same alloy as it did in the 1909 cents, and
2b. the Mint will be asked to use the "original form and relief" of the 1909 cent.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:15 pm Reply with quote

My opinions on 1 and 2 above:

2: sounds like a plan... 2a will never happen, hopefully 2b does.

1: NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:17 pm Reply with quote

So Smed....do you really mean NO??
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:00 pm Reply with quote

The presidential coins are a mistake but the cent change is very cool. The cent won't survive to 2009 without some legislation. It costs far over a cent to make them already and with the price of copper forcing old coins from circulation there will be little desire to ramp up production.

If they do something then they'll probably keep the cent in the mint and proof sets so it will make it to 100 years.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:09 pm Reply with quote

In order to force the one dollar coin, they should stop making $1.00 bills and make the dollar coin work. Till they do, they will be as popular as a booger. LOL
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:06 pm Reply with quote

Bob - Yes, we have no bananas.

Coop - I've been saying the same thing for years... not the booger part...

*LOL*

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:04 am Reply with quote

I, for one, would prefer they leave the coins alone as opposed to what they are doing to them. Nothing the mint has made in recent years is attractive as art. They'll have to solve their problem with lack of relief and then try minting something with artistic merit.

As for the dollar coins - I hope they don't honestly think this will help them circulate...any retard can guess that they HAVE to get rid of the $1 bill before a $1 coin will circulate. Doesn't matter if they stick naked women on them...they still won't circulate with the $1 bill out there.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:43 am Reply with quote

The dollar coin won't circulate until the banks start using them. Eliminating the $1 note may well be the only way to get the banks to issue the coin.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:48 pm Reply with quote

Chuck, please don't recommend the naked women idea. The teller lines at the bank will be even longer. Besides, then we would have to search for double DD double dies.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:59 pm Reply with quote

How about naked women bank tellers?
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 8:39 pm Reply with quote

Besides the big counterfeit Morgan story there was a very depressing story in the May 16 Coin World about legislation to create a Lincoln dollar commemorative, of all things, in 2009. My God, give me a break. Four varieties of cents and a dollar coin all in one year. There is no end to the pandering in Springfield, IL.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2005 8:21 am Reply with quote

If I remember correctly, the Lincoln Cent production was actually ahead of the game in the tune of $10,000,000. 00 a year. That is one of the reasons that those who are against the contuation of this coin are having a hard time getting rid of it.

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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2005 8:28 pm Reply with quote

wavysteps2003 wrote:
If I remember correctly, the Lincoln Cent production was actually ahead of the game in the tune of $10,000,000. 00 a year. That is one of the reasons that those who are against the contuation of this coin are having a hard time getting rid of it.

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The seignorage on a one cent coin for the year ending September 30th 2004 (fiscal year 2003) was .02 cents.

Five cent coin was 1.22 cents.

10 cent coin -- 7.79.

The quarter? 17.29 cents.

Half dollar/dollar coin.... 35.08 and 68.79 cents respectively.

$10 million is insignificant in these contexts. All my refs are packed so I don't have mintages, but at a seignorage of .02 they'd have to produce half a billion coins to make that 10 million bucks.

Stop producing the cent and dollar note. They are a waste of resources in this day and age.

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 2:48 am Reply with quote

There are between 9 and 13 billion cents produced annually these days. That would be $260 million.

I don't care what they do regarding the cent, take it or leave it....but they do need to get rid of the dollar note and move to coins for good.

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 6:10 am Reply with quote

9-13 billion? That's ridiculous. That's 40 for every person in the country.
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