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1980 2-O-I CCW or a NEW ONE ???
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 4:28 pm Reply with quote

While CONECA doesn't have the Die 2 listed, it is in the old "MASTER LISTING" and states, pictures needed.

1980 2-O-I-CCW (Photo: Needed)

As noted from old listing:

"Strong spread on entire Obverse, best seen on L of Liberty, E of We and inside lower loop of 80 of the date.

Heavy sandpapering evident.

Published in: OCDDU, page 92 - Bad Photos"

I can see now why that is, after looking at these, I have, this is the best I could do, on this die.

It also has at least three images ... and in some area/s look/s to be 4.

What do you'all think???








More pictures of this one.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 9:49 pm Reply with quote

This is one I would have to see up close before I could make any determination of any kind.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 1:17 am Reply with quote

I have two of these, thus far (1/2 bag gone thru) and will send them both if you would like to see them both, thy have the same saturations from the sandpapering, and maybe good to use both for the pictures, let me know and I'll send both or the one.

Only question is when could you or Bob get to it?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 7:25 am Reply with quote

If you just want analysis and photos, about a week to two weeks. If you want them sent to ANACS it would be more like three weeks to a month.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:04 pm Reply with quote

I'm going to take a few more days and see if I can't find a few more and hopefully better examples for this die, to send in, but yes ... definetly going to send em in to the site, so we all can have a better look see. This 50.00 camera just ant doing the job on these.

I'll send ya an email befor I send em into ya. Back to it ... .
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:13 am Reply with quote

Got a few more, this is of a earlier die state (I guess) has die scratches in the lower part of date, through the tail of the nine & bottom of the eight, but shows better separation on the the date but at the same time, less bold in the motto ??? as the other one pictured. (just less pronounded if you could call it that with the die state of these)





BTW, just about thru this bag of cents ... lol, and only found this one with the separation lines on the lower right corner of the 8 in the date. Yes I will be sending this one in with the other one, so you can compair the two, definently the same die, just different states.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:49 am Reply with quote

That last one looks like machine doubling to mee, and frankly I don't really see anything that looks like doubling in the other photos...but like I said, that would take clse inspection to tell for sure.

I can tell you it's not the big doubled die, that one is much more obvious than what you are seeing.

Good luck with them!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:06 am Reply with quote

For sure ... took me 6 bags to find one, 1-O-V, this one I think is maybe the second die (old listing as 2-O-I, in the Master listing)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:10 am Reply with quote

Six bags, huh? I've been looking for one of those for 20 years and still haven't come out with one. Passed through half a dozen 1980P cents this morning - nothing.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:05 pm Reply with quote

LOL, guess I just got lucky on it, got bag number 8 (hehe on 7 now) on it's way, will let ya know if anything come/s from it. As you know ... takes a lot of persistance for sure.

The only bad thing about it, it had a very ugly bag mark, in the (Lincoln's) back of the mouth area, out side of that was a beauty ... still came back a "64 RD" from PCGS. Wink
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